Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

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Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by FieldMarshall Ober » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:26 am

Are there any cards around for the Humber with the turret mounted with the 37mm gun?
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by Locozugmeister » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:50 am

:bowty: Do any of these sound right? I'm not very aquainted with these wrong side of the street driven hoopdies.
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by Pletch » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:29 pm

Humber Armored Car Mk. IV?
'43?
Mx. Spd: 50mph = ~5
Armor: 15mm = 2/2
Primary Arm: 37mm M5 or M6 = 9/7/5
Secondary: 7.92mm Besa MG = 7/6/5 or 7/6/4
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~10 points?
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by Pletch » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:40 pm

The AV stats on the above Staghound III are wrong. 6-pounder AV stats are 11/9/8.
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by Locozugmeister » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:24 pm

:bowty: Thanks Pletch. I've been considering scratch building the Stag III when I get some free time.
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by FieldMarshall Ober » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:26 am

Pletch wrote:Humber Armored Car Mk. IV?
'43?
Mx. Spd: 50mph = ~5
Armor: 15mm = 2/2
Primary Arm: 37mm M5 or M6 = 9/7/5
Secondary: 7.92mm Besa MG = 7/6/5 or 7/6/4
Strike and Fade 2
High Gear 2
(standard AC abilities)

~10 points?
Thanks. I was thinking around 11-12 points. Is the change in the frontal armor a typo or intentional?
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by Pletch » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:04 am

The Humber Scout Car and Humber Armored Car are in fact two different vehicles. This confusion led to a lot of unnecessary griping at WOTC back in the beginning of AAM. The Scout Car has 30mm of frontal armor and the Armored Car has 15mm.

Generally, vehicle armor correlates strongly to AAM numbers below 50mm:
No armor: 1
1mm-20mm = 2
21-30 = 3
31-40 = 4
41-50 = 5

The correlation ends here with armor levels 6, 7, and 8 representing much larger variations in thickness: 30mm-40mm per level or greater. Definitely a situation where correlation does not equal causation.
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by FieldMarshall Ober » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:47 am

The stats are for the FoW Humber III / IV Flames of War BR323. Would this model have 2/2 or 3/2?
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by Pletch » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:01 pm

FoW book Afrika puts frontal armor of the Humber III at 1 and side armor at 0. For AAM, I'd interpret that as 2/2.
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Re: Any cards around for a Humber with a 37mm gun?

Unread post by FieldMarshall Ober » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:06 am

Below is my rendition of my Humber Mk IV card. These were mounted with a turret and a 37mm us gun like the M5. The secondary armament was a 7.92 Besa MG. They were used in recon and as command vehicles by the commonwealth. The almost exact Canadian copy was called the "Fox" armored car.

A few notes. I selected 3/2 as armor for it despite the excellent comparison Pletch gave that would of given it 2/2 armor. Since the armor is so well sloped it has much more survival chance than say a half track with a flat hull and 12.7 mm of armor. To give it superior armor is silly so I went halfway in between a took the WotC value.
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